Can’t really speak to this as a Logic User. In logic, it was dog easy to slap the Scaler Control plug on midi tracks and Scaler on audio tracks. They all speak to each other so it’s pretty seamless and str8 forward. Never heard of the issues in Ableton but hopefully the new version addresses those for you.
Exactly. Other than that, the rest looks like a great improvement, lots of new goodies. Few bugs left and right, but hey, its release day
Yikes. Both Mac and PC installers still unavailable.
I reached out to my guy Elliot over at PluginBoutique. He says they are working to get good links up for PB custies.
PB customers can now head into their account to download S3/Upgrade directly from there.
That’s where I got mine.
I just redeemed the PB code on the scaler website which forced me to setup a account and did the download from there
Sounds like you were early, lucky or both. Im hearing that the download links on Scaler’s site are still down which is nuts.
I officially dig this new version. I also gave up on V2 as the UI was confusing and I wasn’t getting interesting results. But this one is way better.
I’m still a bit lost, but I’m getting some really interesting stuff. Combined with Ableton’s MIDI transform tools it’s incredibly deep.
I used scaler 2 only to create chord sets, which i then manipulated with midi fx, now this seems a bit more intresting with all these articulations available. I started to arrange with 2x Hive instances - but the standalone crashed, and i had only 1 simple bass patch for the melody, and a sub running, so it might need some updates. Before its stable. I will try with the plugin ,and see where it goes - but that wasnt to impressive when it crashes after 5 minutes usage.
I’m also loving Scaler 3. So far no crashes. Hope that isn’t an oft occurring issue for you @Sternenlicht
The fact that Scaler is now a Standalone Chorder/Rompler Host for all of my sounds and effects is great. I guess it’s still part of my DAWless setup technically.
Captain Plugins has been a host for some time but I just never got into that suite.
No MIDI out from Scaler Standalone is my only gripe. It seems this was an intentional design choice which is head scratching to me. Reading the manual all but confirms they intend for us to use the virtual plugin in a DAW to control our HW.
I really hope they aren’t planning to constrain multi track midi out in standalone to the upcoming IPad version because that would piss me off.
To be clear, I have no reason to believe that is the case and will definitely be expressing how important it is on the forum over there at Scaler Music where they are always very responsive.
Otherwise, huge upgrade.
I was using it to create midi files for hapax, to chop it up, no brainer this upgrade - i think they sort it out, there are others with that crashes, who report on the youtube channel.
So, while i was keen to use it on my current track, i stick to the old version for now. (as it just provided the chord sets anyway.) And i dont see a way to automate in their arranger - so its good for prototyping midi data, and the compare function in their lanes is also quiete intresting - really a good idea to find the best progressions /motions. But its not a DAW replacement.
Indeed. Chords to chop is one way I use it. Im pretty sure i saw an automation lane in the arranger in one of the what’s new videos but I haven’t dove into that yet.
No, and it seems a step backwards in Ableton, at least in the initial version. One of the things I liked about the preview videos was the multi track arrange page, being able to have all the chords / midi in the same instance. While that will work for internal synths you can’t send the different tracks to different channels in Live because of the way they implemented the midi out.
This version doesn’t include the “Sync Instances” functionality that 2.x had so you can’t do it with multiple instances either.
I also wanted to like and use scaler 2, but like many said i also could never get on with the ui.
That just sais how important is ui design in vsts or anything else.
I doubt 3 will make it better from what i saw, but i will also give it another go
Anyone got any good video tutorial recommendations? Normally I prefer to read the manual, but in this case video might be better.
So far just the ones from Scaler Music linked above including the latest in depth Overview by Davide.
I did find Audio/Midi detection. You have to click record at the top now. It’ll display an option to capture midi or audio. Audio is sorta buggy atm.
I had no issues downloading it and getting it running (latest MacOS) - looks good so far.
I would just say that there will be bugs - even with beta testing done, when you open up your software to the many, many different combinations of individual users. From my experience with version 2, the Scaler team seem to have a culture of both fixing bugs, and also improving the software based on community feedback.
So don’t be too discouraged if you exact use case isn’t fully covered at the moment. Get your (constructive) feedback in and I’m sure once the obvious bugs are squashed, they’ll get to work iterating once more
Well said. I would just add that Davide over at Scaler Music forum has always been very receptive to feature requests and user feedback.
In fact, Davide from Scaler has already said he will add multitrack midi out in an upcoming update if there is enough demand for it.
Consider submitting Feature Requests on the official channel for that here:
I tried the new version just briefly, but there are some basic things that didn’t work out of the box with my Ableton setup (for example MIDI capture, which works flawlessly on Scaler 2). Also with audio detection the processor load jumped quite a bit, even though I’m on M3 Pro. Hopefully these will be fixed soon!
New tag for the dawless purists, [scalerless] incoming.
Jokes aside, some serious functionality in this one! Huge