Qu-Bit Aurora. In either mode, depending on your needs. A brilliant sound designy stereo reverb.
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Caveat: I donāt play āliveā except to myself. But it seems to me you are short on tweakable modulation, unless you intend to do that externally through OXI Pipe or ES-10. Pamās is good for set-and-forget, and a bit of CV control, but not for tweaking in the moment. Something like Neo Trinity or Batumi? I guess you can do without envelopes.
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Very good point on knobby modulation. I do plan on sending some modulation through both oxi and push (via es-10). Do you have a neo trinity? Seem a touch cramped, but maybe it doesnāt feel that way in practice?
I had an aurora in the past, and liked it, but moved on from it before it got the second (lush) sounding reverb. The algos on the XAOC timiszoara are pretty great IMO and I can change them on the fly.
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Beautiful Case. The fella from 2many synths does great work.
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I have a Neo Trinity. It is cramped, and the single knob has no catchup mode, meaning you have to kind of remember to take it to noon at the end of any recorded modulation. But I got it for a case with a space crunch and no envelopes, LFOs, or VCAs. I brought it up mostly as an example because itās pretty easy to get some varied CV out of it. I think you should fill the 24hp with playable modulation that works for you.
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I would add a Noise Engineering Versio. 10 hp, many possibilities to be tested with the differents firmwares. Imitor and Desmodus are really crazy modules!
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I have and Imitor Versio in my bigger studio case! May swap it in the smaller case at some point. Iāve been wanting to try the Melotus firmware.
hey yall Iām looking to build a 64hp case to compliment some semi modulars I have. Iāve already ordered the ES-8, Morphagene and Neo Trinity. Iām considering filling the remaing 28hp with a Maths and PPW. The semi-modulars I have are a Softpop 2, neutron, 0-coast, plinky and zoia euroburo. Iād like to compliment my current set up mostly with more modulation abilities. Everything will be sequenced with a Push 3. One of my main curiouisities is if having a Neo Trinity, Maths and Pams will have too many overlapping features or will the modules compliment each other pretty well? If anyone has any suggestions on what to fill the rest of the rig with iād be happy to hear them!
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Itās not really overlap if you use everything, plus if it is overlap, using both Pams and Neo Trinity would give you an opportunity to figure out which one you like using more.
Some other things Iād recommend or consider would be Make Noiseās new Multimod (10hp), Happy Nerdingās 3xMIA (6hp), and/or Make Noiseās Channel Saver (6hp), and Bela Gliss (4hp).
Some of it is going come down to how you like working with things. ES-8 is going to be very powerful if youāre passing CV from VCV, or just using CV tools form Push 3.
I would think being able to combine signal, and/or, sum, inversions and attenuation will be the most needed things to really take advantage of all your modulation tools.
Maths will be a great addition for hands-on modulation. I just got Maths and have a Neo trinityā¦while they have some similar function, in practice they are very different. Maths is very intuitive and immediateā¦Neo Trinity needs the manual, if you donāt use it too often. If you know it and remember it, it is very powerful though.
Just start and look how it feels, how you can work with and most important thing if you are inspired. Iam missing an VCA/Mixer in your current setup to combine and/or modulate all your great modulation sources. Or for example, me, and this is only me, wouldnt need a Pam in this setup, cause why, only for clock? You got other options for that and all you semimodulars are handson while for me Pam isnt, the screen plays a crucial role in it. I would see more a thing like Bastl Akido in this, mix and combine signals coming from your semis or modular, be it sound or cv, its also a VCA and the envelope followers are great as a source.
But its totaly up to you, Eurorack is a personal journey. And its most the best to not fill every space from the beginning but having a goal/a purpose for your rack in mind and then start and then after some time look how it went and how it feels and if something is missing or if something have to leave.
Maths and Morphagene take up two-thirds of a 64hp case. Itās not a modulation skiff at that point, itās a Make Noise sampler. Morphagene is big, but the alternatives are even bigger, and you already bought it. Maths has more alternatives: consider Quadrax (14hp), Boundary (12hp), Delta-V (10hp), Contour 1 (8hp). You may not need envelopes at all; your semis have them, as does Push 3, and Neo Trinity has rudimentary ones. So does Pamās, which offers a lot of bang for the buck in a case this size. It offers set-and-forget precision (with some ability to tweak), while Neo Trinity is more about sloppy in the moment tweaking, plus CV/gate loop recording. In the space remaining, consider Batumi (10hp), Mixwitch (8hp), 3xMIA (6hp), 3xVCA (6hp - the VCAs in Neo Trinity are more trouble than theyāre worth), Select 2 (6hp), Klawis Tweakers (3hp).
@SonWu is right about needing to read the Neo Trinity manual if you arenāt using it daily, but after a week with Pamās, you wonāt look at the manual again.
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Some great alternatives for Maths! For me its always Falistri>Maths. It offers a lot, love the VCA/Ringmodulator in there and the FlipFlop. But as always with Modular: its up on personal taste and priorities. I didnt know the Boundary though, looks interesting. Learned something, thanks!
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I always hesitate to recommend Falistri, even though itās my personal favourite, because itās only 2hp smaller and a hundred currency units more expensive. But yeah. I only noticed Boundary after falling for Three Body. An all-Schlappi case would be quite something.
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Get it. It was my first module and also it is still my favorite, i would recommend it all day even for starters and even if its more expensive, the build in vca, slew, flipflop, the great sound as an osc and all the attenuverters its worth i think. Btw: once in procrastination i read all your blog about your modular, was interesting.
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@zirkuskind and @plragde
Iāve always ignored any Frap Tools cause the faceplates look like complete gibberish to me. Iād honestly prefer Make Noise over it even though they also really donāt speak to me.
Frap Tools irritates me less; in that they donāt seem to purposefully try to make things weird and confusing; like Make Noise (to my subjective opinion) seem to like doing. Frap Tools seem to actually try to make a very ālogicalā design language; which just doesnāt speak to my brain as of yet.
So Iām curious: did Frap Tools design (non-alfabetic schematic ish?) esthetics always speak to you? Or did it have to grow on you and was it confusing to you at first too?
Curious if itāll grow on me if Iād give it a try.
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Iāve heard this criticism before (perhaps from you?) and it has always puzzled me with its vehemence. Yes, there is less text and more iconography. But it is done consistently, and once I read the manual for a module, it makes sense to me, and I donāt have to keep looking up what this knob or that switch does. I have always liked the look of their modules, starting with my first glimpse of Usta (which has more text on it than the others) well before I was contemplating Eurorack. If I were to criticize the faceplate design, the midsize knobs and the small trimmers can be crowded, and the little switches are a bit too small. I wish they had used toggle switches with a protruding handle, though there may not be enough space for those. The build quality is excellent and they are very reliable.
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It is really just like the wrote in they description at SchneidersLaden: In 1 minute of explanation/over view you immideately get it and will never forget. Its absolutely logical and makes totaly sense. It isnt confusing at all or -what might be a often heared critisism- signs and paintings for the sake of signs and paintings, it is coherent and streamlined and logical. Yes it was confusing for me at first, too, but only before i just took literaly one minute to look into it what is what and it made click. A plus is yeah i find it beautiful, but for me thats secondary a modul has to be controlable in an instant and Frap Tools Falistri is that for me. A Plus is just like plragde wrote: its build like a tank, very reliable, a āi got it foreverā-module. That counts for every Frap Tools module.
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Also @plragde yeah it couldāve been me - didnāt mean for it to come off so strong, itās all just subjective preferences, and I can kinda see that they actually put work in coming up with a coherent / definitive iconography. (Also theoretically speaking I appreciate them trying to find an alternative to alfabetical language approach which also has its problems like the usual English bias).
Still itās always puzzled me 
Even after an occasional glance at a manual.
I might draw out the Falistri on paper and write out the functions between the in and outputs - see if it clicks then!
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