Opened up an Ableton project that I already used to record an AR pattern using Overbridge. I‘ve setup two groups of tracks for all of the master tracks and the individuals. I can record each of them, except for „post mixer“, I don’t receive any audio on this one. I had already recorded audio from this one previously in the same project and haven’t changed anything on the Ableton or AR project since. Any idea why I can’t receive and record post mixer? I need some quick help so I can record this before I part with it …
mmmm… maybe it’s different for RYTM but I thought that OB does not send post mixer (post fader) audio? Only on the stereo track, right?
Pretty sure that at least for the digi series, you get pre mixer audio stems for all tracks including the fx track, and then you get a post mixer stereo track L/R.
So (for example) adjusting track level from the mixer or from the level knob within the track only impacts the stereo mix volume levels, everything else is pre-mixer.
Correct me if I’m wrong on this but are you sure you were able to record post mixer audio stems using overbridge previously? I can’t give you a definitive answer but that would make sense to me.
I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if I was wrong but just mentioning that I’m pretty sure this was always my experience in the past with digitakt and digitone.
Thanks for chiming in! The issue is that there’s no audio coming in for the stereo master track post mixer. Everything else is sending audio, including master pre and post FX. I have recorded stereo master post mixer in that very project before, the audio is in there.
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Did you possibly hit the Ableton track limit? I’m not an ableton user but I was advised you get like, 15 tracks simultaneous audio? Does that sound right?
And I understand now it’s the stereo track post fader you’re looking to get, which is normally available to my knowledge.
Yeah it is there, I can select it and everything, but no audio coming in. I also thought about the track limit, but I think the issue there is that usually the track isn’t even showing up to select it in the first place.
So maybe the easier route: would I even lose anything compared to the post FX master stereo track if track levels are the same for each track and I did track levels via amp pages? Compressor and FX should be on the post FX track, right?
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What I would honestly do is just record the stereo master without overbridge. Overbridge is not necessary for that function, it’s just convenient.
Unplug it from the computer. Go into the AR menu and switch out of overbridge mode to USB midi / audio, then go back in and assign it to a stereo track as your audio interface and stream away.
There should be no issue because the overbridge plugin won’t even be in the chain anymore.
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I also thought about that. But I want to reserve the individual tracks as well as I‘m not sure yet whether I‘ll work on the mix later on. Also, OB introduces some latency and I‘m not sure that will be the same as the latency when I use it as audio interface …
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Not sure if the latency is going to be the same so unfortunately can’t say. If it’s a concern the thing I do when I want to align tracks is start out with a 1 bar pattern with a pop or a click at the beginning and then silence for the rest of the bar, that way when I have the stems lined up I can just align them using the pop.
It always stands out because there’s silence afterwards. It’s not a very elegant method though, I admit that, but I’m not much of a daw guy in general so I just do this kind of stuff to make my life easier since a lot of gear can’t even do USB audio.
Not saying you should have to do it this way, but it’s just one thing I do when I need to track something out manually.
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Thanks for your help 
. I‘ll see what works best. The easiest way would be to just use master post fx, but would I miss anything other than individual track levels (which are the same for every track)?
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Good question. Do you mean “is the pre-mixer also pre-master compressor?” or something like that? That is something I don’t know, but I bet that the audio path diagram in the manual will show that, but it will be a minute before I can pull it up to check.
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That’s exactly the question. I assume it is, since you access the compressor via the FX button, which would indicate they treat it as a master effect. I‘ll check the manual myself, thanks.
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Would the lower part of the graphic indicate that post FX will actually have the compressor in it but post mixer not? I‘m bad at reading these signal paths. If so, I won’t need post mixer master stereo track. But the upper part looks like FX come before mixer …
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Maybe a bit more helpful screenshot taken from Overbridge Manual. Post mixer most definitely does not have compression to my understanding _ I never use OB so this is just how I read it.
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Yeah, looks like everything after before effects return 2 is before the compressor, effects return 2 is the only path which intersects post compressor but before the primary outputs, for everything else compressor is the end of the line.
I don’t know how the internal routing works, can everything be piped to the FX track and back through effects return 2? If so, you should be able to get the compressor on that track (from my understanding of the diagrams at least).
Thanks you both for chiming in, but now I‘m really confused. These are all the tracks that AR OB plugin offers:
So I always assumed post mixer or post FX would be the same as the main physical outputs of my AR, compressor and all.
Edit: I just made the post mixer input work again by activating the MIDI plugin track. It doesn’t need to be active for any track but post mixer for whatever reason. Post mixer sounds like the compressor is on it when I compare to post FX, but who knows. Good enough for now I guess, thanks @shigginpit and @B_LD .
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Ok sorry for the delay I was AFK I’m glad you got it back up and working. As long as it sounds good then I think you’re ok, I definitely think you’ll know the difference if the compressor is in bypass (famous last words) lol.
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