Digitone 2 vs original

Who is up for a more expensive OG DN e25 remix edition than the DNII?

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Has anyone tried loading their DN1 projects on DN2? They seem to sound different to me, and in one of the projects there’s some strange fade in on track 1 when the pattern initially starts playing that’s definitely not there on DN1.

I’ve started recording my projects on both off my interface and should have an objective sound comparison ready soon, but from initial listening the DN2 seems to sound a bit more “muted” and filtered down? Is it just me?

I wonder if this is just a slightly different gainstaging, the DN2 with additional headroom reserved for processing/fx gain.

Supposedly these are projects brought over from DN1.

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Compressor master effect?

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Give it a couple of months and second hand og Digitone prices will go up again for their ‘crunchy vintage digital sound’ and ‘unique charming yellow display’ :laughing:

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That sounds like it might explain the fade in, I’ll check if it turned on the compressor when importing the project

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Honestly if my A/B comparison shows they sound different I’m keeping my DN1 :upside_down_face: (and keeping the DN2 as well). Plus I’m definitely a sucker for the yellow displays

… Unless Elektron add a legacy sound mode in the settings menu of the DN2 (that is assuming it’s not the DAC causing the perceived difference in sound)

It could also be likey I’m entirely imagining it, from my past experience I’ve noticed that changing the appearance/color of a synth or gui seems to also “change” the “sound character” :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Does anyone know if the sample rates are different between the two generations of DN? I imagine FM synths are very prone to sounding different with a lower sample rate

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If there’s a change from before, I’d guess oversampling over higher sample rate.

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That would be very surprising.
Please record digitally DN1 and DN2 with exactly the SAME LEVELS for an A/B comparison.

I had DN1 and DN2 together recently and I didn’t notice a significant sound difference.
DN1 has a warmer…screen for sure. :wink:

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I have been using the DN and DN2 quite a bit lately and I am not noticing a sound difference using the same sounds on both. I am in the keeping the OG camp if only because it is still a great device and not worth selling in the current market.

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In any case, DNII is the chance to sound way better :wink:

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No difference. But DN2 can go further.

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I’ll definitely do a digital test eventually, though I suspect they would sound the same digitally. Currently half way done recording them off my interface to do an A/B of the actual audio output in case the DAC colors the sound. I’ve recorded some of my projects on DN1 and some of its factory projects, just need to stop being lazy and record the same projects on the DN2. I’m paying attention to the levels also.

Hopefully they are the same, I wouldn’t be surprised if the different color of the buttons and display alters the sound for me :laughing:

And actually (I think) what I’m noticing (whether it’s really there or not) is that despite the warmer color display, the DN1 sounds brighter :upside_down_face:

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i have the og and new, i 'm sure they don’t exactly sound the same for 3 reasons:

first elektron explained that in order to accomodate the new compressor settings , when you load a DN1 project the master volume on the pattern is intentionnally turned a little bit down ( 1 don’t remenber exactly the value ). so is a possible explanation as to why you think it’s muted. dial the volume up or set the compressor and you have kick ass digitone back.

Second : i think they tweaked the DAC or software , on DN1 it may lack some bass or low frequency on some patches (try doing a techno pattern on DN1 vs syntakt and you’ll understand why so much techno artist choose a syntakt or digitakt over a digitone ). in fact they noticebly tweaked the DN2 is now way more bass heavy , so you could also feel the DN1 as to a more clear sounding device.

third , it’s way easier to have a clean sounding mix with 4 tracks than 16, lots of DN2 demos are a bit muddy.
but anything from that bassy sound the FM tone is exactly the same

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Why are the presets on mkll so bad? At least they should have left the originals… :frowning:

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I wouldn’t call them bad, there’s some really nice ones in there. I appreciate that they made new ones. But I agree that they could put the old ones up for an easy download on their website. OG DN presets are probably the best of any synth I’ve owned so far.

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DN2

-LFO SH Effect Level is higher, has to be adjusted to have the same sound.
-Only Scale per Pattern, its not possible to have Tracks with the song key and some chromatic track for sample triggering

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Talking about Random Lfo Slew ?

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Talking about Digitakt 2 ?

On the mod Page the DEP Parameter has to be adjusted significantly (lower) if the waveform its random to have the same sound

ON Digitone 2 the scale is stored / defined per pattern (same for all tracks) on the Digitone per track

Surprising. Can it be because of DN2 slew parameter ?