DN1 sysex into DNII: compatibility issues? [implemented in OS 1.10]

I had zero problems importing DN1 projects into DN2 with Transfer app. Just a simple drag and drop from one browser column to another. The browser in Transfer recognise .dnprj files. And the projects I imported into DN2 gave me no problems as they sound exactly the same as in DN1.

The problem came with large preset collections that are contained in syx files, like Elektron soundpacks. If you want to import those presets into DN (original or II version) you can use Transfer app but not in the browser view, but using the Sysex Transfer page, which is a little trickier than using the browser as you have to put Digitone in Sysex Dump mode and set the bank in which you want the presets to be imported.

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Ok thanks, so far I have only bought soundpacks from the Elektron site and these have all the dnsnd files, and in any case there won’t be enough space in the dn2 to import them all. As for the “presets” file, the dn2 has yet to arrive but I imagine it contains a file with the same name, perhaps the dn1 one needs to be renamed. Have you imported this file on the dn2?

I see… you are now talking about the “Presets” project, right? The factory patterns showing the capabilities of the synth.

The DN2 came with its own PRESETS project, but I also imported the old PRESETS project from DN1 into DN2. They are both named PRESETS but the machine allowed me to have two projects with the same name in different slots. Just to differenciate them, I renamed the old one “PRESETS DN1” and locked it with save protection.

EDIT: Soundpacks from Elektron that you download right now come with .dnsnd files, but when I bought them years ago, they only came with .syx files. I had to download them again from my account to have the separate .dnsnd files.

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Yes, I recently downloaded and reordered all the soundpacks from scratch. Did you drag and drop this “Presets dn1” file into transfer or did you use the sysex dump system? Does this also need to go into a specific bank?

The projects (.dnprj files) are recognised by Transfer app browser, just a simple drag and drop from left column to right column and you can copy any project in any available slot.
You’ll see. It’s really easy.

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in a nutshell… are DT 1 Presets and packs compatible?

Yes.

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I never had a DN1, but heard that DN1 presets are compatible with DN2. So I bought a few presets packs.

I set the DN2 to SYSEX dump receive, and then tried first the transfer app, and then a 3rd party sysex app to send the sysex to DN2. In both cases it is stuck on “Waiting on data”, although Transfer and the 3rd party app says the file is sent.

Is it not possible to get DN1 sound packs into DN2? If so, did I waste my money, or is there a converter available?

If you use Elektron Transfer, you only need to set DN2 to audio/midi over USB and that’s all. No need to sysex dump receive. (If you use USB, that is :D)

That’s what I did first, but no files were transferred. Then I googled and saw that you should set it to sysex dump receive.

We are looking into adding support for importing legacy SysEx data. Currently, only the Elektron Transfer file formats are supported.

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Sending .syx banks with Sysex librarian (on mac) to DN1 and using Transfer to export to .dnsnd on disk,
and then using Transfer to send .dnsnd to DN2 worked like a breeze and is actually rather quick.

I just used my empty bank H for that and after each conversion I emptied the bank again. Leaving my DN1 set to receive the whole time.

I converted all my 3rd party banks that didn’t have .dnsnd in under 10 minutes.

I wouldn’t mind this operation, but it would get rather expensive for me as I don’t currently own a DN1 :sweat_smile:


[Moderator Edit : Inappropriate suggestion … deal with the vendor of the packs]

Thank you for clearing that up, Patrik.

Any ballpark estimate as to when that might be? Don’t want a concrete date, but rather will it be days/weeks/months/years? :wink:

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you load the default project , and in project manager tag it writeable , when you save it will create a copy of the default preset project you will be able to load in DN2

Thanks… so at this stage unless we have a DN1 avail to convert the Sysex file all the DN1 Library need this update in order to be used on DN2 correct?

Anyone willing to convert my old datas to something readable by DNII ? Please ? :sweat_smile: :innocent: :kissing_heart:

Yeah I don’t still have my DN1 but have the DN keys presets so I can’t use the workaround. Hope it gets possible to transfer the sysex. file :grin:

just encountered this issue too - hope the import of DN1 patches in sysex format is enabled soon :slight_smile:

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This is nuts… It’s not even possible to buy and use the official soundpacks from Elektron because they are delivered via a .syx.

And this has been the case since launch?

Doesn’t this seem kinda unacceptable?