Syntakt II speculations

or adding more analog voices… or adding analog voices with polyphony.

…truu…if there’ll ever be a syntakt 2 someday, it surly will also offer 16 trackengines like both dt2’s now and at least half will be analog kinda…

but for any near future, it’s time for truu new devices…and for bringing back flagship models…
tv will rock us loooong before any st2…

After spending 6 months with my Syntakt and very much falling in love with it, and also becoming familiar with Digitone(2) and Digitakt(2), I would really, really, really appreciate a Syntakt2 at some point. I want the Syntakt’s combination of features over the Digitakt or Digitone, alone.

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After the DT2, ST2 was my first thought

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Syntakt is very well packed feature-wise, except for 8-bar sequencer.
but Syntakt is a techno machine, and even 4 bars is overkill for techno, one bar is totally enough :tongue:
so i would not expect ST2 anytime soon.

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Syntakt has analog tracks, so I think upgrading it would be a whole different thing than doing it on 100% digital boxes like DT2 and DN2.
i mean ARmk2/A4mk2 didn’t get more tracks than mk1 either…

if they wanted to add more analog tracks to ST i doubt that would fit in the same enclosure. so might be ST never gets a v2. i think if they wanted to make a drummachine with more analog tracks they would do it in a bigger format. maybe even ARmk3.

also adding more digital tracks does not make much sense now that we have DN2…

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If they wanted to pack more analog voices into the takt-sized box, at the very least they might need to add a case fan :sweat_smile: Syntakt already gets quite hot…

I don’t know, there’s still a lot of ground that isn’t covered by DN2 in terms of digital synthesis…

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This and the separation of condition/probability/fill and more options for these. Seeing how Elektron is always making it very clear in their marketing that their sequencer is really really important and an integral part of their machines, I can see this being an argument for ST II.

Let’s see how the release of DN and DT II will impact ST sales. Maybe Elektron will look at it and then decide if they make ST II? If people stop buying new STs and get DT/DN II instead, they’d probably make more money that way with the digital only boxes. On the other hand, if they fade out the bigger analogs over the next years and don’t release a new analog box, ST II would be the way to close the analog gap.

I’d prefer them to just announce that there won’t be an ST II if they’re not planning to release one, so people can make an educated decision based on what they currently offer.

while reading about updated sequencer i thought that i would love current Elektron sequencer as a standalone hardware box.

Syntakt 2 release date = Syntakt release date + (DT2 release date - DT release date) ± (DT2 release date - DT release date) / 4 :nerd_face:

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I think with DNII there is no need for a STII. What they would be wise to do, is lower the price by about 10% (or add rudimentary sampling machines) and still make it an enticing do it all easy box, combining some stripped down aspects of every other digi size box. What the format is missing now is a Digianalog (sounds confusing, so maybe Voltakt), then it should cover most bases.

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what digital ST machines do you think are not somehow covered by DN2? i mean with BRR/SRR/Arp the chiptune stuff is covered, VA and Swarm are covered, FM and drums are covered…

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four analog tracks and analog FX track.
think again :wink:

for me, ST feels like „Best Of“ all Elektron machines in one piece of gear.
(and without analog stuff the difference with M:C would not probably be THAT huge.)

If there are additional things integrated like eq for every track and other goodies like a compressor and and and and so on… why not

A Tonverk with analog filters/overdrive and MOTION LAYERS would be better than a Syntakt 2 imo.

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IMO there’s nothing like SY CHIP on the DN2

But I agree I think the differences are pretty slim

i was talking about digital machines, SY Chip is analog.

I think this might happen sooner than we might think because they are transitioning to a new software platform and it makes economic sense to stop development on the older boxes and concentrate resources on the new platform. They’ve obviously been really successful in porting across the sequencer and DSP code for DN2 and DT2 so would think they are on a bit of a roll.

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Is there any reason why the code from the machines in the MD and MnM cannot be ported to these new boxes? Seems crazy to leave that legacy in the past when each machine would only take up a small amount of memory.

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Porting code is often hard

I bet those old machines were coded in C or even assembler, I read somewhere they are now using Rust

Anyhow obligatory link to "It should be simple to code"

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