did any box ever reach a 2.0?
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Hey there. New to the forums.
One small feature I found lacking:
When youāre changing pattern on the row in the song mode, your mute groups are cleared.
I propose to change it so that when you switch pattern in song modeās row, layout of mute groups is retained.
Workflow Iām looking to: I recently started to use song mode, and made a structure sketch with one pattern, and wanted to copy the song and just replace the pattern, but it reset my mute group for each row. I design my patterns, so that every track is usually the same instrument with same dynamics, so in my case switching pattern with retaining mute groups wouldāve allowed to quickly apply previous arrangement to new pattern iām selecting.
I still had my structure with number of loops, repeats and namings, but I had to go over whole song to set the mute groups for each rows. This is certainly simplifies a lot of stuff, but takes additional time.
I see no downsides to the logic iām proposing, but if there are maybe theres a way to make this optional or button combo to switch pattern retaining mute settings.
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Another issue with song mode I noticed:
If you have row playing or is queued, when you leave song mode and return into it song view opens in the start of the song. Which is understandable, but in my case I end up scrolling down a lot of times if I were making edits mid-song. I guess opening the song mode on queued or row currently playing would be more convinient to use. At least in my case, yes, but it makes sense that you would probably want to edit song around places where current row is playing.
I think Iād never get tired of requesting this, the ability to select which tracks are affected by Controll All, itād be a third section after the 2 mute modes.
Now with machines like SY Chip, you canāt use the E, F and G knobs for Control All without messing with the scale (if you are using it more like an arp).
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it would be great to be able to load(from database) and generate(completely random) a random preset corresponding to the selected track(analog or digi)
There are two already - pattern chaining and song mode. Without a new hardware update, Elektron are not going to make a 128 step sequencer for the Syntakt (IMO), so I think these two options are all we are going to get.
+1 for performance kits
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Yeah, but when you chain two patterns in play mode, you have to wait for the one you want to edit to come back before you can tweak it. I find the DN2 much nicer to work with, especially with 128 steps. But youāre right, I think the same.
The Perform Kit is a must. When I chain patterns and record my variations manually with it, itās a real pleasure. On the ST, itās more complicated to record and make long, clean variations beyond a single pattern. It sometimes drives me crazy. 
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which is why you plock the parameters that absolutely cannot change due to a CTRL-AL. Problem solved
Do you not copypaste from a single āfoundationalā pattn and then change the trigs? This is how I personally tackle the āno kitsā issue on my Syntakt (although admittedly I rarely have more than 2 patterns per groove)
ofc, but then you would have to plock every parameter on every track you want unaffected, very impractical for live situations.
I do that sometimes, but there are times when I make big variations on the same base. Other times, though, I actually need two completely different patterns to write my full melody or bassline. I tend to push things a bit further with some of my sounds, and I really need to be able to write without the pages switching every time the pattern changes.
Thatās why I found the idea of linking two 64-step patterns into a 128-step one interesting. This way, you get a single block with 8 pages that you can navigate freely without being restricted by the pattern change.
Iām suggesting this idea this way because Iām not sure if itās technically possible to extend a 64-step pattern to 128 in terms of memory on the ST. But using two 64-step patterns to create a 128-step one seems more doable if the STās memory is a technical constraint.
youād only plock the offending parameters of course (like in your example, those SY CHIP notes)
āMore digital hats
- Comb filter
- Added fx in fx block
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Iād be happy with something like an āx0xā machine that used samples of HiHats, crahes and rides. Donāt have to be samples of Roland boxes necessarily but didnāt even the 909 use samples? I would prefer this āhard codedā approach over an actual sample machine as I like not having to deal with sample management on the ST.
Formant filter would be nice. (is that the same as a comb filter?)
Also +1 for more effects (maybe we get the Chorus in a future update)
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Of the features added to DT2/DN2 in the recent update, the ones Iād love to see ported over are:
-Mute mode memory when power cycling the device (Iāve been begging for this tiny change)
-Routable base width filter
-Track swap
-Changing parameters for active trigs only
(Probably forgetting a couple moreā¦)
These would all be welcome additions to the next firmware update, whenever that may be. I tried to consider features which could realistically be implemented on the Syntakt.
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When ST2 is announced your original ST is worth $300 instantly.
Judging by the fact that the 8 year old Digitakt is averaging $450, the 3 year old Syntakt with analog circuits is probably not going to drop to $300 no matter what Elektron releases next. The used price would certainly drop by a couple hundred if they do release a Syntakt II (Iām not a believer). Iād speculate a used price in that case around $500.
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Any clues about the implementation of Kits on ST? Or do we just wait for the ST2?
Do yāall think elektron is done with updates for syntakt