…some people are never happy…many of those complaining then even don’t really saw the whole picture yet, never realizing, there was nothing to complain about in first place, if they would have only to be able to wrap their head around it before starting to rant about it…
and it’s the same with all the tools around us…which, by the way, never had been better…
most of actual bedroom"producers" have no idea, how easy all this became in the recent years and would have been lost and unable to do most bottomline mission in first place, only a few years ago…
i’m a very happy xo user, by the way…who still can’t believe, people not getting it…and always want more…more…more…hmmmpf…
improove ur music, not ur tools…it’s been never that easy to just get something going…and if u stuck right there, the tools are not the problem, goys and birls…
I meant Apple samples folder which comes with Logic. Same for Ableton samples.
It’s not limited, you can import your folder with the Lite version. It would be a bit counter productive otherwise, i would not even give it a try.
A few options are limited like the export or manual tagging. Makes sense to me.
You’re right, I messed with the real limitation : 50000 samples max for the lite version, sorry for the confusion !
A full comparison between both versions is available here : Samplism – Audio Helper Project
I was confused by the line Import third-party library which mentions only Apple and Live librairies for the free version. Anyway, the free version is worth a try.
Anybody knows if Sononym has been on sale at BF, and around what price?
Installed the demo 2 days ago and already make good use of it.
I like the systematic approach that fits with organising samples so it will be easier when you are creative.
The Projects I make with it (maps with selected and exported samples) will work well with the ADSR Sample Manager in the DAW.
Atlas I liked also but mainly the sequencer that brought some good ideas and the switching of samples in the Drum pads.
Atlas is fun, Sononym feels like it will be a more substantial part of planning and learning production when I’m in that mood. My brains are happy (and get curious) with it.
I’m on Windows so Samplism is no option if I understood right.
I hope so because I have been waiting half a year to buy it already lol. I never buy a plug-in unless it’s on sale…
I wouldn’t call XO a sample manager. It’s an extremely powerful and easy to use one-shot picker and arranger for percussion.
My Ableton Live template has XO grouped along with the 8 individual outs, you couldn’t ask for an easier way to create fun drum loops and record them individually. On the track next to that group I have ADSR Sample Manager which organizes everything into loops and libraries pretty neatly. My sample library is pretty massive, and the ADSR plugin does have a couple issues with file formats (it doesn’t seem to like OGG files, for instance) but with the ease of XO I haven’t really had a need for loops.
ADSR Sample Manager is a free tool though, so you can’t beat the price.
I also use Nuendo for tracking and Steinberg’s MediaBay is vastly improved from when it was first released - it’ll do samples and one-shots but also catalog MIDI files so you can just drag and drop those right into a drum track with HALion or Battery or Maschine. It’s probably going to be a distant third as far as what I use but it is a decent tool.
Usually 50% on Black Friday. Last year’s offer:
thanks
Sononym is very good, I use a lot search by similarity, very useful for finding perfect variation of a sound.
If anyone has been reading this thread and thinking about Sononym (which I’d highly recommend btw), now is the time to get it… 50% off for their live BF sale;
A new thing from XLN. Sample based. Not really sure what it is or what it’s for tbh, but thought I’d share here.
Tried it out earlier and am actually very impressed. It took the first thing I recorded on the mobile app, which was basically weird noises/gibberish, and somehow used its AI black magic and turned that into a pretty good beat. It’s expensive, but I recommend doing the trial for it. I think it could be great for anyone who doesn’t want to spend lots of time making beats, or just wants some inspiration in that department.
Anyone who has XO will know it doesn’t recognise your sample loops, just one shots… well, Life seems to work with your loop library and lets you autoslice/chop them into something new using the same kind of ‘channel strip’ found in XO.
They’re pushing it towards catching your own ambient recordings for some reason (I’d guess that’s where they see a gap in the market), and speed of use… I like the concept, it seems like it still has a way to go to me tbh. If they made an XO style globe library of my loop library I’d be happy.
It’s also expensive even as an ‘intro’ deal.
Anyone who likes the look of it, I’d recommend checking out Audiomodern’s Loopmix. Loopmix has a lot of similarities and, at this point, goes way beyond Life in terms of functionality. You’ll just need to record and import your phone recordings manually.
…yup, xln’s new baby seems a nice new take…
but why o why does it always need this upload to the cloud before it remangles ur audio…
i avoid any apps that need to be online to function…!
can anybody confirm, there’ no way around it…?
i mean, hey, cool twist, to use ur phone as a field recorder…but uploading and downloading again before u can make any use of it, is a no go for me…
and for now, it seems like, the whole thing even needs online treatment, if u feed it with ur very own recordings u already got on ur computer anyways…silly.
what kind of ai treatment nonsense happens here in the background, that u really need to be online for it…?
It could be that the data needed for the AI to work is too much* to download ?
* by somebody’s criteria
…hmmmm…but what is really the “magic” here…
the plugin is nothing but a sample mangler…there is randomization…there is syncopation…there is population…all free to adjust…so far, so nice…but also a pretty common thing…
what is it really doing to audio upfront in a cloud, that could not be done in the app itself…i don’t get it…
I’ve been using Life for the last day and it’s quite different than a normal beat mangler, regardless of where it initially stores its data. I’m especially enjoying it’s ability to mess with tonal content in ways that I simply wouldn’t have arrived. The ability to work through infinite variations, find one that feels good and then go in and fine tune things in the “Edit” window is really wonderful. I think there’s ways that XLN can improve it, but at the moment it’s a blast.
With regards to the usefulness of the phone app and the cloud upload, I think the usefulness is that you don’t have to remember to do anything. You can be out in the world, capture something, forget all about it and then when you’re in Life you open it up and it’s just there, waiting to be messed with. The intention to capture only needs to be there once and then the Admin aspect of the process happens in the background, which suits me just fine. I’ve got enough admin to do when I make music with a computer. Anything that pulls those things to the side and deals with them for me is a plus.
Yesterday I just went through my kitchen with a chopstick clicking against things and got a brilliant set of instant rhythms out of it.
I’ll also note that the controls feel a lot like Logic’s “Drummer” app to me, which I’ve longer to have replicated and available in Ableton. For me, I hear when things click, so the way Drummer allows you to drag the dot along the axis and refine things until it works is perfect. Life feels a lot like that to me.
As Life has little to do with sample library management as per this thread, here’s its own one;