Any SFX6 Users here?

Nauts - I am really surprised how rare the SFX 6 seems to be (even on Reverb / Ebay).

As mentioned in a former post: what might be a be a realistic price (if one unit might appear on the market) in times of MnM being sold for > 2k?

And are people still interested in any keyboard versions at all?

Cheers!

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There was one on Reverb in France for more than a year for only €1k!!! I think it was largely hidden because it didn’t have Monomachine in the title, so it didn’t come up in many direct searches. I should have got it but went for OT at the time thinking to come back to it later on. Then, inevitably, it sold a few months later. Never seen one on Reverb since and the prices now will probably be €2k+.

Edit: Only 500 made (I think) so it’s very rare.

Also, looking on Reverb and filtering by Sold is depressing. So many went for less than €1k

are you asking because you’re after one, or because you have one to sell?

in general I think the mk1 units go for less, and the SFX6 is a mk1. so I’m guessing you’d see more in the $1500-2k range for one. versus the $2k minimum you’re seeing now for mk2 SFX-60’s.

I seen one a few years back for $1200 in Japan but hesitated on the purchase. I eventually came across a SFX-60 MK.II for $1600 before the big inflation but there’s something about that keyboard version…

Even just 2 years ago I’ve seen some go for $1600 at the most but this was checking multiple places, i.e. Reverb, Ebay, Echigoya Music, Five G Music Tech… So one is bound to pop up sooner or later.

Last one I saw was 2k on eBay - maybe half a year ago.

Got unexpectedly an offer - but have no idea about pricing and co (and because I got my SFX60 just a week ago).

I am not sure about the mkI / mkII discussion. SFX6 seems to have the 64 step sequencer (aka mkII) already (?)

Cheers!

Mk1 Monomachines had the 64 step sequencer; only the Machinedrum mk1 had 32 steps.

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I’ve got one. Strangely enough right before the mm rose in value it seemed very hard to sell sfx-6’s. Seems like I saw them linger for $1200 all the time. I already had mine at that point or I would have snapped one up.

Uuuh - thanks for clarifying! Indeed - I had MD in mind …

@tr909
1.2k seems like a bargain nowadays for a SFX6.
Anyway - keyboard versions seems to be ā€œlessā€ desirable on 2nd hand market - just my feeling.

The joystick :joystick: is awesome to set modulations to.

Would an analog keys be a fair swap?

@J_C_SelectorV2: I don’t have anything to swap :relieved:

Generally, I would never think of purchasing a keyboard version (because I am not a keyboarder).
SFX6 would be interesting for me, because it is so rare.

I was asking in general, not you.

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I sold one on reverb a few months ago for $2400. It’s a great machine, but I got the mdmk2uw+ instead.

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First time I spotted a unit on Reverb:

:woozy_face:

a slightly cheaper one since this morning on german s/h marketplace

Guess I should’ve bought one when they going for around $1000 a few years back. The YouTube hype strikes again…

managed to snag one.

I’ll (immediately) say that it is possible that the joystick purposes were overlooked if you purchase a desktop unit and listen to the factory content. The central position is like a ā€˜default scene’ with the 4 cardinal poles each being its own scene in a way, with how some of these factory patterns are set up. i.e. if all 6 tracks have some melody, and rhythm, one pole is more chill where the bassdrum/rhythm recedes and there’s some focus brought on melodic lingering, another pole that seems to push the effects to a build-up/riser effect, another pole where the bass synth phattens and widens out for audible focus, another pole for… I dunno, probably an arp background sweetening… lost track of how many I listed already, and then your central pole for being kind of the primary groove spot. And let’s just say I uh never considered that in any of this stuff with desktop versions… ever. heh

They are heavy and awkward to carry. Because they are larger, I feel like the chances to damage it are higher and I basically don’t wanna move it anywhere.

The joystick integration and keys display (in the visual aesthetic of the machine) is pretty cool. If I had someone watching over my shoulder, they would’ve talked me out of getting one, but it was a slight bucketlist thing; and also the person selling it was something like 15-20 minutes where I live via public transit. The seller was friendly and very respectful towards the product (hesitant to ship it, thus I got priority to come take a look in-person). From that alone and some other timing factors, it ended up coming home with me within about 30 minutes of walking into the same room as it.

I may look into +Drive’ing it manual style because I feel like the desire to make content on it (kits, patterns) is sped up some with this keyboard integration present. It’s interesting, always wanted to check one out.

Snagged it for about 1750kEU

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Congratulations! I’d say you got a decent price, they are only going to get harder to find in good condition. Must say I’m jealous of anyone who has these old rare Elektron boxes. If I felt like I’d get enough use out of one, I might be able to justify it - but I know myself too well. Still would love to have one just for the sake of having it, as they’re beautiful machines.

:slight_smile: Word - with that in mind (feeling jealous or left out or whatever, basically - wherever I was about 36 hours ago) I’ll look into what a person would need to do to get the Keys vibe.

It doesn’t have the DPro machine where you can ā€˜draw’ between two waveforms and you cannot upload any user waveforms. Ironically I feel you’d mostly want that to articulate playing on it.

I’m going to have to see if the keyboard input records note-off inputs (func+trig pressdown on the seq mode) to handle the release stages of voices; because now returning to program the machine, I care about the amp curves of things a lot more.

i.e. you can set the attack (this is a general mnm thing I presume) to something really high like 120 and I thiiink having a succession of multiple notes whom do not retrigger the amp stage (you have to flip over to the env trig edits and remove amp) will make the curve either gradually get faster with each trig that happens, or slower, not sure - but the successive notes make a difference; goal being to articulate the onset curve without using any param lock data.

and I figure you can do the same with note-off trigs as well (the yellow ones).

I really do prefer using key-based versions of synths for anything that was ever designed in-house with keys. i.e. I have a virus ti-1 desktop version but one loses out on polytouch if they’re using any step sequencers where the velocity articulation and note entry are separated (for entry-level users rather) as opposed to the immediacy of the keyed response.

and for analog keys, for example, aftertouch is there and it also has a joystick.

analog keys for 660 might be the nearest thing you can get to for a low price-point and some good footprint of capability. I haven’t really been able to use the digitone keys :expressionless:

But I want to do a kind of comprehensive review of this device for people who don’t own it to know what they are missing out on, from any perspective; i.e. factory content not being evaluated fully (the joystick, mainly, and how it can be used to do that pole/scene thing I described) and also how to not feel like you are missing out on it. The things fucking heavy. it’s probably just a collector thing and I’d like to quell the whole desire to find one just to say ā€œI got one.ā€

btw I got one (jk)

and ideally to suggest some kind of simplest setup to get yourself feeling like you have the keys version using equipment you can acquire today for the cheapest would prob be the abs main goal of the review. I’m talking about a youtube video or something.

in it I will also fuck around with (if we’re going to incorporate a PC to emulate the idea of having a Keys version) avoiding menu-diving headaches (I’ll coin a word for this, has something to do with the skull ache pressure of being too far underwater, or your skin wrinkling from being underwater too much ) and how using sysex sends to adjust kits since you -can- do that with a PC would ultimately make your setup more powerful if you just have a desktop.

If you like these ideas or think I’m missing anything, let me know! Thanks

I’ve owned one for over 15 years, and I believe it’s one of the coolest-looking electronic instruments ever made. The speed at which you can create interesting and great-sounding music is astounding. It has never given me any problems whatsoever, except for a blown fuse. It’s an absolute joy to use whenever I plug it in, which isn’t that often, to be frank. The keys have yellowed a hint, but that just adds to its vintage charm. I’ve thought of selling it from time to time since it for the most part is resting in its original box, but I can’t do it. That, my OP-1s and my 1976 Model D will be passed on to the next generation.

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